Jedi Order -=Year 243=-
Jedi Order Temple => Other Star Wars stuff => Graphics, Art, Mods, Videos, etc. => : *<JO>*Scalarik April 11, 2012, 08:34 AM
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We thought about making a short promotion video of the guild. This thread is for the ideas and everything regarding it.
Show your ideas for some scenes and acting!
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Like i said....MUSIC VIDEO!
Maybe do some on tyhton (opening)
Action (fighting and deflecting bullets)
Need to 'advertise' master-padawan and history.
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We obviosuly need some shots of wild duels!
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Yeah a shot of a Padawan class would be good.
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- 3-4 Jedi landing cooly from a tall fall
- duels
- 3+ jedi knights igniting their lightsabers in a dark place
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Imagine one that one jedi lands infront of you, kind of a kneeling landing, then another one and another one. They rise. Everything goes black. Then suddenly several lightsabers ignite. The darkness dissapears. Theres intense battle going on. *insert additional scenes here*. The scene cuts to a jedi knight suddenly leaping at you with a scream, a very fast scene, that ends with the video title (guildname probably)
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Discussion ingame (cant be bothered to write in the names :D )
What we should do is try get somewhere dark and then all ignite lightsabers in the dark.
That would be cool. Are there any places that dark?
And preferrably knights, so it looks better. This consular wielding...nah
Majority green and blue, maybe 1 purple and orange.
At least no black-yellow or wierd color like that
No lighting options so need somewhere dark.
We could try do massive battle and have 3 jedi force push at same time.
We could, but thats is not exactly what we are about?
On tatooine we can all fight each other in a special pvp area
yes...but jedi vs jedi?
for fun :D
We need some kind of transcription or what they call it.
Diologue?
just script
not exactly
First this, and this text hovers and then this and this shot and text etc
what do you think about group of jedi jumping from high place and doing that cool landing
i can show you not that cool landing right here
that would be cool
1 at the time, jedi falling in row from sky
couple of jedi activiting form
all download camstudio
one with best graphic will do final filming.
Mine are quite good, on PC that is
my graphic card is pretty old.
Mines new and overkilll ^_^
We can both film, Tom so we both can get in picture
:)
We can make Elod film
he has before
true yeah
And remeber that promotion video that trooper guild had....that quality
Just make a note...filmers need to do ctrl + u and be zoomed in
and disable the nametags so its really is like camera
yeah
And then...music. Could we borrow J.Williams i know all the msic by heart so i can arrange that
imagine this. You see jedi land onfront of you then another one, then another one. Everything goes black. Suddnelt 3 lightsabers ignites. Next thing you see is Tomius leaping towards you.
Yeah, you must write that. You Must. But does it have to be TOm? :D
No :P thats just what came up in my mind
Let me see, leap at me
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I'm coming in game now having just downloaded so software thingy that can video.
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Well me and Scalarik just gone of...Ill be on later though
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I'm good with video editing, so I can elaborate the footage!
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While this is both ambiguous and vague, most premises of film ideas have attached to them some form of 'mindset(s)' that they wish to convey. What is *<JO>* to you, personally? What makes it great? Is it the vast history? The discipline we all share? The community? The inactivity of our Cou--.. err, yeah.
Think of ways you can convey what makes you excited about our family to those who aren't inside. As for the specifics, I'd feature candid shots of Master-Padawan/The upcoming Academy training. Get ingame images of an archive, and mention that we've got a long, long history of success. Things like that.
Oh, and don't edit it in Windows Movie Maker! ;)
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I've got Final Cut for this purpose ;)
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Good choice, Final Cut Pro's a fantastic non-linear editing tool!
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When are we thinking of trying to do this?
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Preferaly when Padawan Elod can be there too!
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Yes. Good idea. I can't get recording software to work properly :'(
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I'm available today evening, better tomorrow during the day.
Not available on weekends :(
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Should be ok. :)
Hermesean was gonna write something to help with this.
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Dont know how to paste a table into a reply so its a screenshot ::)
Anyone got any ideas?
*edit Tom did it better below ::)
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You could of cropped it ::)
EDIT:
(http://i1209.photobucket.com/albums/cc397/leettomlee123/Table_pic.png)
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Hmm... You know your stuff, Hermesean. I like the shape it takes.
What about sound part? Sounds, music, voice...
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I have an idea as to the sound part and can make the track, it would take me some time though as i need to gather all the samples i need and work them together etc...
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Right, so Elod can you doing some playing around tomorrow and see what you can get? :)
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Might I suggest good old Obi Wan's "For over a thousand Generations the Jedi Knights were Guardians of Peace and Justice, in the old republic, before the dark times, before the empire".
Always works so well, Sir Alec Guinness we miss you.
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Someone has production knowledge :D
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Might I suggest good old Obi Wan's "For over a thousand Generations the Jedi Knights were Guardians of Peace and Justice, in the old republic, before the dark times, before the empire".
Always works so well, Sir Alec Guinness we miss you.
Yeah we could have that line right at the beginning.
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We need someone with an inspiring voice to do some dialogue at the end.
Something like 'We are the Jedi order. We are the force.' or something like that (yes I know that is a little cheesy :D)
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I'm on for another couple of hours!
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OK, I've thought about the project hard in this couple of days. So I'm going to develop the full production documentation about it. They will be structured as follows:
0. Idea. One-two phrases.
1. Plot. Maximum a page of the development of idea in direction of What happened? As linear as possible, so there are no flashbacks, no blackouts, nothing. Only the history material.
2. Treatment. A couple of pages describing the spirit of the video. Let's say it's a How did it happen? How long it is? What style is applied? etc. etc. etc.
3. Storyboard. I know what I see, but am I sure you (and even I) got it right?
4. Script. A most developed part, something like the extract Hermesean showed. 5. Production schedule. It's the script, but everything is mixed up following these criteria:
- Actors involved.
- Locations.
- Camera Angles.
More or less. Document which makes its best to organize the filming.
For now, document 1. Enjoy your reading.
0. Idea.
*<JO>* is not a guild. It's THE Jedi Order, with its past... And its present.
1. Plot.
A padawan listens to his master, walking in the forest. The lesson is about the history of the Order, and suddenly the padawan is overwhelmed by glorious images of the past: epic battles, difficult trials, incredible achievements which different jedis accomplished in the past years. The master concludes his lesson saying: Look at the past, it will build your future.
When the lesson is finished, he goes to train with other padawans in an iddilliac athomsphere: laughter and joy is not a rare guest there, as well as strong commitment when necessary.
Time passes. The late padawan is now a Jedi Knight. He travels through hazardous enviroments, seeking to complete the mission the Council assigned him: to find an ancient holocron, now situated in a aborygen-controlled territory. He skillfully avoids armed confrontation, sneaks past the guards and arrives to his destination.
He is surprised to discover that he arrived at the same moment with a Sith. The armed conflict is inevitable, and the Knight engages in fight against the enemy. And, when the Sith almost wins the fight, all of sudden the Knight's fellow Jedis arrive. Some ignite their sabers, a couple of others help his friend to get up. Then they prepare for a fight (in the meantime, more Siths have arrived). Together they are invincible.
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This is the story. I was thinking about trailer-ish setup, so that it more resembles the Hermesean's cut. But let's first discuss and build up the story.
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I know next to nothing about film and video production. However, I wish to know how you will get this story across? To me it looks like it may need some narration. (but hey I may be wrong...what do I know :D )
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Narration... Is a very relative thing. You can narrate with anything... and with nothing.
Anyway, in this case it's very easy.
The story will be not showed at all. This is a pool of sets, locations and actions, from which the trailer will be made. It has to be logical, subsequent, and interesting enough. Yes, it's plain, for now. We should start from simple things and I know a couple of tricks to make it enjoyable.
I'll give you an example.
Supposinly, you want to tell a story about a work of an artist... an artist seeking perfection. It can turn out like this:
http://vimeo.com/7413161
But then you might think you want to tell a story of a solitude. Of a man who lives every day of his life alone... Like a wind which blows every day on a place. You can re-edit your footage, or even remake some things, to achieve something like this:
http://vimeo.com/7991177
But then again, you just want to show that you had lots of fun. You take all the footage, and re-edit it like this:
http://vimeo.com/8119154
It all depends on your goal. One story, different solutions. The simpler is the story, more solutions are visible.
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Ah I see. They are very good :) You have a talent.
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So, Treatment of the video "The new dawn of the Jedi Order".
1. It's a trailer-like video of 2-3 minute length.
2. It uses lots of splashes and titles. (black screen with text)
3. It's very dynamic: average cut duration 0,5 - 1 sec.
4. Colors are mainly original.
This video can be logically divided in three parts: History, Challenge, OneForAll. Each part is contained within its music theme in symphonical construction.
History (reflection): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wEUGF3NGbPg
Challenge (action): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dU8aXIVy2DU
OneForAll (triumph): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HcZ9kQ1h-ZY
Let's see them in details:
History
Introductive part. This part reflexes itself on *<JO>* roots. I.e., there will be thenes of Kyle Katarn's trials on Yavin IV in JO2, old screenshots and/or footage, combined with scenes of SWTOR. They will be dissolve alternated by black screens with text. In the end of the part, a scene with master and apprentice standing on Tython will be shown.
This part has very flowed rhythm. One shot passes into another gradually.
Information delivered in this part: Jedi were guardians of the peace and justice in the Galaxy, but now the Order is almost destroyed. You must prove yourself worthy of your title, padawan.
Challenge
Information delivered: We might be facing challenges at the moment, but it's not over. We are here around by 10 centuries, or 170 years.
This is the scene packed with action. Explosions, saber clashes, fightings....
OneForAll
Information delivered: We are standing at the new dawn. We are together, and only together can we succeed.
Heroic moments in group, winning the enemies, listening to masters, other.
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Black screen for 10 seconds.
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Secret bonus scene.
What do you think about it?
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I like it :D
Whats the secret bonus scene? :)
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Secret :P
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This looks excellent! You truly are a professional ;)
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Nice work there Elod :D
Will be awesome to see where this goes!
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Starting storyboard now :)
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This is just a matter of opinion but I think the best recruitment videos don't have a "story" but they appeal to what people think of the theme of the guild, take the trooper video that has been posted somewhere, it has no story, really it's just troopers running round Tatooine....
I think a recruitment video needs to be simple:
- Key features of the guild (I.e master-padawan relations)
- Any significant history (10 years of JK series etc)
- An appeal to emotion and to what people stereotypically think of when they imagine a Jedi Order (ie training on Tython, leading in battle, duelling Sith)
We aren't making a movie trailer here!
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We are making a guild trailer, which is worse! :D
If you are talking about this video ( http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UmwBwcPM-Sk ), you will notice that it has similar structure as my project:
1. History
2. Preparation to fight.
3. Fight.
4. Slogan.
5. ...
6. Bonus scene!
Hey guys, I need help! Give me as many appropriate quotes from JK2, JKA, SWTOR and of course original saga as possible!
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May the force with you!
May the force be with us all.
Its a trap!
Fear is the path to the Dark Side. Fear leads to anger, anger leads to hate, hate leads to suffering.
Always in motion is the future.
A Jedi gains power through understanding and a Sith gains understanding through power.
Only a Sith Lord deals in absolutes.
The Lightsaber, this the weapon of a jedi knight, not as clumsy or random as a blaster, elegant weapon for a more civilized days.
The force is an energy field created by all living things, it surrounds us, it penetrates us, it binds the galaxy together.
Remember, a Jedi can feel the Force flowing thru him
The Force will be with you, always
A Jedi must have the deepest commitment, the most serious mind. This one, a long time have I watched. All his life as he looked away, to the future, the horizon.
A Jedi uses the Force for knowledge and defense, never for attack.
The Force is what gives a Jedi his power. It's an energy field created by all living things. It surrounds us and penetrates us. It binds the galaxy together.
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Ehm... I meant audio files or links to youtube :)
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Oh sorry
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Thanks anyway!
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How's that story board comming along? :)
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Quotes:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GyvT8UF2jD8
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a2xYeV80GFA
USE ACKBAR'S may the Force be with you! lol (or not)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jo1kdsJKFQU
Yoda:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fE8PieLJttY&feature=related
EVIL (DUM DUM DUM)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5CKSLfmMAQY&feature=related
;D
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Thanks for quotes, master Ekul, they are most appreciated!
How's that story board comming along? :)
At the moment, I'm a bit stuck. More or less on the half timeline. I hope I'll bring something by tomorrow.
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How's it going? :)
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Weell... I changed the concept and the music, up to now only by talking with my lead assistant (hopeful Karabaa)...
Tonight I finish my last night shift this month, then will get some sleep... I hope to start shooting by weekend, or earlier.
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Let us know what you need!
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Right, the storyboard is ready!
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/17/jo10001.jpg/
Going on mostly on Tython, with one scene on Tatooine.
Characters:
- Hero
- Master
- Opponent
- Friends
Let me know who wants to apply to which role!
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Thats really good. Cool! :D
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:o
That's really amazing. That would work like that as well, no video needed :D. Really good!
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As you suggested Elod, I will be the Master ::). That's what you get when you look old... :D
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http://www.starwars.com/play/online-activities/crawl-creator/
COuld use this?
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I like the idea. Can you write up a text for the crawl, jedi Tomius?
Ok, confirmed Scalarik as Master (he has both appearance and online, as well as TS), we still desperately need somebody for the role of the main character.
I was thinking about shooting on Tuesday. The script should be ready by this time. What do you think about it?
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I'll try. Give me a little time and I'll think of something.
Sounds good
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Ok here is first draft. Hope it's ok.
It's a dark time for the Republic. The galaxy stands divided. Fear dominates many worlds. After countless fighting, the Jedi stood crippled and broken, temple destroyed and many warriors lost.
The empire has dampened hope for the republic, leaving the remnants of it in darkness. The sith have been reborn and their power reaches strengths greater than that before.
But a brave few remain strong. An old order stands against the growing evil. Respect, friendship and hope drive the last remaining Jedi to protect and restore the republic, and furthermore the galaxy.
The Jedi Order struggles to find valiant hopefuls, dedicated to rebuilding the ancient order and bringing peace to the galaxy....
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Not bad for start. Try to work on it a bit.
I'd suggest to arrive to three paragraphs only. And fix the time: present or past?
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That's pretty good. However, to make it more SW-like, you should have it in present, only three paragraphs and some CAPITAL words. And most importantly, as you have, FOUR dots in the end ;D
Maybe put the paragraphs like: bad things (galaxy divided etc), good things (Jedi etc) and finally us, the JO in the last chapter.
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Second draft:
It's a dark time for the Republic. The galaxy stands divided. Fear dominates many worlds. After countless fighting, the Jedi stand CRIPPLED and BROKEN, the old temple destroyed and many great warriors lost in the raging battles. The sith have been reborn and their power reaches strengths greater than that of those before them.
But a brave few remain strong. An old order stands against the growing evil. RESPECT, FRIENDSHIP and HOPE drive the last remaining Jedi to protect and restore the republic, and furthermore the galaxy.
The JEDI ORDER currently struggles to find worthy HOPEFULS , willing to learn, dedicated to rebuilding the ancient order and committed to bringing peace to the galaxy....
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I'd caps JEDI and SITH instead of CRIPPLED and BROKEN.
"have been reborn" sounds... strange? Is there any way to find a shorter version?
Consider adding an adjective to the JEDI ORDER. Glorious? The remnant of? ...
It still doesn't convince me for 100%.
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Made the changes you suggested. Tinker around with it if it's still not what you want.
It's a dark time for the Republic. The galaxy stands divided. Fear dominates many worlds. After countless fighting, the JEDI stand crippled and broken, the old temple destroyed and many great warriors lost in the raging battles. The SITH have returned and their power reaches strengths greater than that of those before them.
But a brave few remain strong. An old order stands against the growing evil. RESPECT, FRIENDSHIP and HOPE drive the last remaining Jedi to protect and restore the republic, and furthermore the galaxy.
The unyielding JEDI ORDER currently struggles to find worthy HOPEFULS , willing to learn, dedicated to rebuilding the ancient order and committed to bringing peace to the galaxy....
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OK, I re-elaborated Tomius's version of crawl, by basically splitting it into three parts: Dark times, New Hope, Our story....
Dark shadows have fallen upon the Republic. The peace
is broken, and fear dominates the worlds. After countless battles,
the JEDI KNIGHTS are scattered throughout the galaxy, while their
temple on Coruscant lies in ruins. The SITH EMPIRE has returned,
more powerful than ever.
But there is still hope. A new order bears from the ashes of the
old one. RESPECT, FRIENDSHIP and COMMITMENT drive the last
of survived jedi masters together to rebuild the old academy on
TYTHON, one of the remote worlds where the new generation
of knights can be trained.
After a long journey from Outer Rim, a young HOPEFUL makes his
way through the forest in the desperate effort to join the cause
and to restore peace and justice....
Tomorrow night (from 8 p.m.) the shooting!
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What timezone? :)
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Ehm... The usual one, +0...
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Ah ok. Just checking ;)
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How's it called? Usually it's GMT, no?
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Yeah. Greenwich mean time I think it stands for.
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Hey Tomius, wanna do the Main char?
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Errr...I suppose I could. Guess my lekku will stand out :D
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We can try=)
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I hope I can make it... Should be ok but you never know... In case I'm not there, you need to shoot the scenes that I'm not in. ;)
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My apparment is full of people >:) but Im going to try an be online tonight
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I tried to make the crawl.
http://www.starwars.com/play/online-activities/crawl-creator/index.jsp?cs=5342wn2c4k
Cannot say I liked it a lot.
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I like it in general, it's just the quality that is bad :-\ That crawl had the right feeling in it, but it moves too fast.
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Here is what we shot yesterday, edited. (the music is the one I think about to put in the final video)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ozUEvyr7Uok
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Looking good so far. :D
Are you sure that is the right choice for the music? I would like to have something more SW-like.
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Dunno. Will play around a bit more.
So far, John Williams's music proved a bit overepic. It's great in the movies, but somewhat inconvinient here. It's too big for such a small vid=)
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I have a sith lord if you want to kick its buttocks ? can be aranged :)
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That reply deserved a well earned kudo +1 !
~ Favian Eia Valérii
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Looking good! Well done, keep it up :)
*<JO>*Alexia
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Good job so far!
For the music, I liked it, but I think I agree with Padawan Scalarik. Some of the none super epic stuff might work. If you didn't pick Duel of the Fates or Battle of the Heroes or something, it could probably work.
Like this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G2nJlE9CNeo
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Hmm, Master Ekul, what map in JKA did used that music ? I can't really recall it anymore, though I can whistle along.
Note; I think this music could fit aswell ; http://jediknight3.filefront.com/file/The_Academy;76582 the music from that map would really fit!
~ Favian Eia Valérii
PS. since I think you haven't played JKA, here's how you can get the music.
- Download the file from http://www.gamefront.com/files/6894651/the_academy_v3.zip
- Extract the .zip
- Rename the the_academy_v3.pk3 to the_academy_v3.zip
- Extract this one aswell
- Open it and go to music / the_academy_v3 / the_academy_v3.mp3
And there you go !
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I think it might have been part of GCX or something? It was definitely a Jedi map.
What music was on The Academy? I forget.
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Read the editted post above my friend, I'm actually listening to it now, I'm sure many more old members will enjoy those tunes!
~ Favian Eia Valérii
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Awesome! :)
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The music from GCX would fit us perfectly.
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I miss some of the JK2/JKA music, I think I'll have a listen of it again. I was even planning to get in-game for old times sake and memories.
*<JO>*Alexia
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Here is what we shot yesterday, edited. (the music is the one I think about to put in the final video)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ozUEvyr7Uok
thats wicked! :D
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While I had no time to continue shooting of the video, I had enough time to think about the music theme in it.
The problem with John Willliams's music is that it's... well, it's copyrighted. They won't let me to publish it on youtube, when it's finished, so we'll have to opt for another hosting.
And I personally believe that, as the state of the things is now, the music proposed by knight Favian would be a bit too peaceful. It's not the spirit of certain moments of the project...
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So using music from TOR is out of the question too??
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It's for 99% a mix from John Williams :)
E.h. Faria =)
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The TOR music is readily available to download: http://www.swtor.com/info/news/news-article/20111201
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Nice! Very nice!
But, I'm afraid, a mix would be necessary. And I'm not good at it.
Who wants to do the music arrangement?
E.h. Faria =)
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I think Padawan Hermesean is good at that stuff :)
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I think Padawan Hermesean is good at that stuff :)
I could do the soundtrack, however it would take some time as i have a lot on my plate at the moment.
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I can also mix music (used to be a music business major), but I don't really have time until school is done. I also don't have Logic Pro installed on my desktop at school (I spilled water all over my old macbook pro :'().
If it still needs to be done after I get home on the 16th, I can probably help with it.
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First and Second day of shooting, and the placeholder sketches.
http://youtu.be/e_hC-DXn8Iw
E.h. Faria =)
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Great work Jedi Elod!!! ;D
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Ah, I'm blinking when I beckon! It seems you targeted me, maybe that one needs to be re-shot?
Other than that, looks very promising.
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Cant wait to see what will become of this :D
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Bump.
Hey Tomius, are you there on Monday for extra shooting?
Or Sunday morning (9-10-11 GMT)?
We would also need another knight with throw powers, and the old man there, but Knight is essential in all the scenes.
*<JO>*Elod-hora
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I might be able to do Sunday morning but can't promise anything.
Monday depends on what time it is.
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Let me know you when you can.
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I'd like to complete shooting the remaining scenes, this project goes on for an eternity.
These are the actor sets needed:
- Knight Tomius alone for 7 scenes.
- Knight Tomius and a Jedi capable of pushing down enemies, for 2 scenes.
- Knight Tomius and Jedi Scalarik for 5 scenes.
- Knight Tomius and a padawan opponent for 3 scenes.
- Knight Tomius and many fellow Jedi for 4 scenes.
In these days (Monday-Tuesday and Wednesday evening) I'm available the whole day.
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Oh my that's alot of scenes :-\
I'll try get for it
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Ill hopefully be online tomorrow night and Ill gladly be part of the last scene there :D
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Might be around for a bit!
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Ok, so let's fix the things for tonight, from let's say 5-6 GMT. At 7 I've got the class.
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I can't make it today :(. Do what you can without me ;)
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Where are we at with this?
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At the same spot as before :)
Regards,
Elod-hora
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Which is?
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http://youtu.be/e_hC-DXn8Iw
I'd like to complete shooting the remaining scenes, this project goes on for an eternity.
These are the actor sets needed:
- Knight Tomius alone for 7 scenes.
- Knight Tomius and a Jedi capable of pushing down enemies, for 2 scenes.
- Knight Tomius and Jedi Scalarik for 5 scenes.
- Knight Tomius and a padawan opponent for 3 scenes.
- Knight Tomius and many fellow Jedi for 4 scenes.
Regards,
Elod-hora